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    UK VAT to be PAID on TV/PHONES/INTERNET by non residents

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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 9:47

    From 1 January 2015, telecommunications, broadcasting and electronic services will
    always be taxed in the country where the customer belongs*
    – regardless of whether the customer is a business or consumer
    – regardless of whether the supplier based in the EU or outside
     For a consumer (non-taxable person) = the country where they are registered, have their permanent address or usually live.

    2. Consumer in another EU country Must charge VAT in the EU country where the customer belongs (not where the business is based).



    http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm#new_rules
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    Post by searcher Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 15:49

    How very interesting UK VAT to be PAID on TV/PHONES/INTERNET by non residents  1293740352
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    Post by Adam Mint Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:11

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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:22

    well it puts BRITS who are not offical residents bills up 14% from 1/1/15 ... on fixed changes without calls thats an extra €60 a year .this also applys to mobile phones ,so could be an extra €150 for those here for the winter ....
    TELEPHONE+ADSL resident €37 / tourist €42
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    Post by 3rdforum Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:32

    I thought they were standardising mobile phone charges ( roaming) across the EU, no??
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:47

    3rdforum wrote:I thought they were standardising mobile phone charges ( roaming) across the EU, no??
    yes the CHARGES are being made standard ie X-mins calls must be the same throughout the EEA ...this is the VAT 
    so a tenerife RESIDENT who is on holiday in the UK makes a calls and is charged 7% ..
    a BRIT who is on holiday in tenerife is changed 20% VAT .
    ALSO ANY TELECOMS CHARGES - ie if you own a ´holiday´apart, in tenerife but you are a BRITISH RESIDENT then you will be charged 20%VAT
    the person in the next apartment who is british BUT RESIDENT HERE would pay only 7% VAT
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    Post by 3rdforum Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:51

    What if you buy a pre paid phone in Tenerife and rang Ireland/UK?
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:53

    3rdforum wrote:What if you buy a pre paid phone in Tenerife and rang Ireland/UK?
    when you buy a PHONE you must produce your PASSPORT or ID ...if you show you BRITISH PASSPORT then all you call charges will be 20% VAT 
    if you show your DNI (NIE?) you will be charged 7% ´´VAT´´ the VAT is now BASED ON YOU NOT WHERE YOU ARE as before
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 17:59

    I think this is the first part of changes on all goods because of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
    it means that ANY EEA RESIDENT PAYS HIS HOME VAT regardless of where in the world he buys anything ...

    IN THE FUTURE ....BRIT comes to tenerife.hires a car ...shows his PASSPORT ,bill will be with 20% VAT not 7%


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    Post by 3rdforum Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 18:05

    What happens if I have already booked a car for next summer in Tenerife? Will I have to pay the higher rate of tax at the rental counter?
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    Post by 3rdforum Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 18:08

    How far will this directive go? Will I have to produce a passport when filling the tank with fuel? How will the retailers cope? will they have cash machines with different VAT buttons for different countries? ( Not asking you directly Paul, just throwing the questions out there). If I was to get the cable car in Teide would I be paying more than e.g. someone from France??
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 18:33

    3rdforum wrote:How far will this directive go? Will I have to produce a passport when filling the tank with fuel? How will the retailers cope? will they have cash machines with different VAT buttons for different countries? ( Not asking you directly Paul, just throwing the questions out there). If I was to get the cable car in Teide would I be paying more than e.g. someone from France??
    well funny you should say this ...the new SEPA (single european payment area) rules will mean that you can now have a SINGLE BANK ACCOUNT in the SEPA area (inc UK EURO accounts) and pay all your bills whereever they are ..we are getting a account in CROATIA coz they pay6% on current account ...so,if you are in SPAIN and start an account you have to say if you live here are not ..so PAYMENT AT A PETROL STATION USING A DEBIT CARD will charge you THE CORRECT VAT AMOUNT FOR YOU ie 20% ...
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    Post by 3rdforum Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 18:55

    cash is king then!
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    Post by Perfectspecimen Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 20:00

    Oh yes, a whole new black market economy then. Spivs rule. What a load of fecking bollox.
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 20:14

    Perfectspecimen wrote:Oh yes, a whole new black market economy then. Spivs rule. What a load of fecking bollox.
    dont worry you can bring back Purchase Tax along with pounds shilling and groats when you float england off from europa .
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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 20:28

    3rdforum wrote:cash is king then!
    well you cant use UK Pound DEBIT CARDS in europa from 2016 ,only SEPA STANDARD CARDS can be used 

    The Single Euro Payments Area (SEPA) creates a true European Single Market for retail payments in euro where transfers, direct debits and payments between Member States are as easy and fast as the equivalent domestic transactions. It will become fully operational in all eurozone countries on 1st August 2014. It will also apply to euro-denominated transactions in non-eurozone countries from 30th October 2016. SEPA will greatly facilitate euro payments for citizens and businesses and increase competition between banks.
    What is the “Single Euro Payments Area” (SEPA)?
    The introduction of the euro has helped to make a cash payment anywhere in the euro area just as easy as at home. But until recently it was not so easy to pay for goods or services electronically in another euro area country, for example with your bank debit card - a means of payment favoured by many Europeans today. And when you wanted to transfer money from your home bank account to an account in another euro area country, the payment could take much longer, and sometimes the beneficiary did not get the full amount.
    The Single Euro Payments Area (or “SEPA” for short) changes all this. It makes all electronic payments in the euro area as easy as cash payments. You can make fast and secure transfers between bank accounts anywhere in the euro area. And if you are shopping abroad, you can also use your bank debit card to make a payment in euro, as you would in your home country.
    SEPA is where more than 500 million citizens, over 20 million businesses and European public authorities can make and receive payments in euro under the same basic conditions, rights and obligations, regardless of their location.
    It also means better banking services for all: transparent pricing, valuable guarantees ensuring that your payments are received promptly and in full, and banks assuming responsibility if something goes wrong with your payment.


    Only one bank account needed for the whole euro area: SEPA makes things much easier if you are working or studying abroad in another euro area country, especially on a temporary basis. At present you have to go through a range of formalities to open a new bank account in the new country. However, with SEPA you can simply carry on using your existing euro account in your home country. For example, you can have your salary paid into your home account and you can also use your home account to pay any bills you have in the new country. This means very few practical changes, especially if you are used to internet banking.

    Direct debits from anywhere in the euro area: if, say, you rent a holiday home on a long-term basis or have regular bills to pay in another euro area country, you are able to pay these bills from your home country by direct debit. And it opens up many other possibilities for regular payments and subscriptions, such as to a foreign newspaper or magazine.

    SEPA is much wider than the 1 August migration to SEPA Credit Transfers and SEPA Direct Debits. Taking into account the other Directives and Regulations (Payment Services Directive, E-money Directive, Cross-border payments Regulation) that helped to build it, SEPA brings:

    Lower prices for basic payment services in high-cost countries: in some euro area countries, the annual cost of running a bank account can be as much as €250, compared to only €30 in others. More competition between banks will help to drive down these inflated costs. And in countries where prices are already low, they should remain low.

    Transparent pricing and no hidden charges: banks have to tell you exactly what they are charging you for, and hidden charges should disappear, such as hanging on to your money before adding it to your account (known as 'float income'), or crediting money to your account but allowing you to use it only after a certain date (known as 'value dating'), which can mean inconvenience and loss of account interest for you.

    Better cross-border bank transfers: you could already transfer money within the euro area, but often it took a long time. SEPA guarantees that your euro payments are made promptly and in full. Your payment shall be received within a guaranteed time, and banks are not be allowed to make any deductions of the amount transferred.

    And in the near future, the use of your debit card anywhere in the euro area: when you're on holiday or visiting another euro area country, you are able to pay with your debit card as you would at home. This is particularly useful if you do not have a credit card, or for making low-value purchases for which a credit card is often not accepted. Nor will you need to carry around lots of cash, since you are able to use your debit card anywhere at any time, and to make withdrawals from cash machines, just as if you were at home.
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    Post by Adam Mint Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 23:44

    Arghhh, don't get me started...

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    Post by Guest Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 23:49

    dont worry scotland will have the EURO if president for life salmond gets in for the third term in 2025 

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    Post by Adam Mint Fri 19 Dec 2014 - 23:54

    He's feckt off to Westminster, or so he thinks...
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    Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2014 - 11:15

    Adam Mint wrote:He's feckt off to Westminster, or so he thinks...
    maybe we should rename it TORIESFORUMOFFUN ..... must be more of you on here then the whole of scotland 
    2015 ....
    UKIP 3 seats
    SNP/PC/GRN/SF 56 MPs ....´´the progressive alliance´´
    TORIES nil punt ...
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    Post by 3rdforum Sat 20 Dec 2014 - 11:20

    I wouldn't be using U.K. pound debit card anyway, I'm Irish. In fact, all I will be doing with my debit card is withdrawing cash from an ATM in Tenerife.
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    Post by Adam Mint Sat 20 Dec 2014 - 13:06

    Your Irish Dermo, and they still give you a credit card, just proves it, bankers are wankers...
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    Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2014 - 14:52

    3rdforum wrote:I wouldn't be using U.K. pound debit card anyway, I'm Irish. In fact, all I will be doing with my debit card is withdrawing cash from an ATM in Tenerife.
    the new system means no one can charge you any more for using your EURO debit card anywhere in the SEPA area then you pay for using it in your local shop back home . all changes will be uniform ...also you can pay all your SPANISH HOUSEHOLD BILL direct from your SEPA IRISH account and dont need a seperate spanish bank account ...or if like us find a bank that pays 6% on current account ,you can pay ALL YOUR IRISH and SPANISH BILLS and go shopping in LIDLS IRELAND,LIDLS SPAIN and just need your ,in our case LATVIAN DEBIT CARD ...

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