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Hudson River landing .....
Jimandsi-
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Campbell Brodie-
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Amazing bit of flying that. Not a single life lost either I believe.
Topdog-
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Now That is a Knighthood worth giving, not British no but deserves recognition.
Mcqueen-
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Mmm, Sure the guy did well, But thats what there paid good money for, 99% of the time the job is a doddle, The planes fly themselves almost, So he did the right thing, He worked out it wouldnt make a runway, The plane was full of fuel, He didnt want to die, So i dont think he is was a hero, He did what he was trained for, Makes me laugh when people get a pat on the back for doing their jobs, Ooo the fireman went in a blazing building 
Yes thats why he gets paid well and gets a fat pension, Or should i say A pension, 99% of the time they are playing pool or in the gym, But one day they might have to risk their lives, Thats the job, What do you think about them stood round the lake while the man drowned, People have survived longer and been brought round because its that cold, Not sure i could get payed to do a job only to be told dont get your feet wet, Somedbody made the wrong call, Helicopters, 4 ambulances, 3 fire engines , 10 million police, Like WTF was going on, If somebody gets stabbed ambulance crews are not allowed to go without the police checking alls well, (Emergencie services ?) I'm afraid its every man for him self now, Yes the pilot did a good job, His training wasnt wasted,
Yes thats why he gets paid well and gets a fat pension, Or should i say A pension, 99% of the time they are playing pool or in the gym, But one day they might have to risk their lives, Thats the job, What do you think about them stood round the lake while the man drowned, People have survived longer and been brought round because its that cold, Not sure i could get payed to do a job only to be told dont get your feet wet, Somedbody made the wrong call, Helicopters, 4 ambulances, 3 fire engines , 10 million police, Like WTF was going on, If somebody gets stabbed ambulance crews are not allowed to go without the police checking alls well, (Emergencie services ?) I'm afraid its every man for him self now, Yes the pilot did a good job, His training wasnt wasted,
Topdog-
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Can't disagree apart from all the other trained people were calling him to a runway and he just ignored as he knew what was what, yes self preservation was a big part, but that was a better landing than most do on a clear day at Gatnick.Mcqueen wrote:Mmm, Sure the guy did well, But thats what there paid good money for, 99% of the time the job is a doddle, The planes fly themselves almost, So he did the right thing, He worked out it wouldnt make a runway, The plane was full of fuel, He didnt want to die, So i dont think he is was a hero, He did what he was trained for, Makes me laugh when people get a pat on the back for doing their jobs, Ooo the fireman went in a blazing building
Adam Mint-
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Recall at the time of the incident some experts questioned the pilots decision to ditch the plane, being of the opinion he could have made it back to the airport, and in ditching endangered the passengers life’s.
Reading the thread brought this back mind, having just read a report on the incident, the investigating authority’s carried out tests on flight simulators using four pilots who were pre were warned of the imminent bird strike and subsequent engine failure, plus they knew the engines would not restart, all four managed to land the plane, the authorities then factored in a 30 second delay, this being the time they felt it took the pilot on the day to assess the situation, with the 30 seconds factored in all four crashed the plane attempting to return to the airport, so it would seem the pilot made the correct decision.
On the subject of “getting paid to do the job”, yes it annoys me also when you hear all the praise being given to the police, fire brigade, ambulance personnel etc, for doing what they are basically trained and paid to do, yes when someone goes “above and beyond” so to speak pat them on the back by all means.
On the day of the Hudson River incident 140 fire fighters assembled on the docks! the plane was in the middle of a river!!!
Reading the thread brought this back mind, having just read a report on the incident, the investigating authority’s carried out tests on flight simulators using four pilots who were pre were warned of the imminent bird strike and subsequent engine failure, plus they knew the engines would not restart, all four managed to land the plane, the authorities then factored in a 30 second delay, this being the time they felt it took the pilot on the day to assess the situation, with the 30 seconds factored in all four crashed the plane attempting to return to the airport, so it would seem the pilot made the correct decision.
On the subject of “getting paid to do the job”, yes it annoys me also when you hear all the praise being given to the police, fire brigade, ambulance personnel etc, for doing what they are basically trained and paid to do, yes when someone goes “above and beyond” so to speak pat them on the back by all means.
On the day of the Hudson River incident 140 fire fighters assembled on the docks! the plane was in the middle of a river!!!
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Some insurance company probably paid for the written off plane, in my opinion he did exactly the sensible thing even though most planes that ditch break up to one extent or the other. If it hits the water dead level then there is a good chance the thing will de-celerate in level mode thereby reducing the chance of turning 'turtle' and breaking up. It is my informed opinion that this plane hit the water at around 100 mph and probably 4 out of five times the plane would end up in bits. However, if it had come down anywhere else?
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I think it is quite obvious he concentrated on the job in hand rather than the Knob on the radio.
Adam Mint-
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Yes it was interesting on how he focused on the job in hand, so to speak.
There was also controversy as to how the plane was salvages, the salvage company cut off the wings, other salvage companies questioned this decision which resulted in the insurance company writing it off.
Had this not been done repair estimates were $20,000,000, less than the third of the price of a replacement plane.
The insurance company involved donated the remains of the plain to an aircraft museum.
There was also controversy as to how the plane was salvages, the salvage company cut off the wings, other salvage companies questioned this decision which resulted in the insurance company writing it off.
Had this not been done repair estimates were $20,000,000, less than the third of the price of a replacement plane.
The insurance company involved donated the remains of the plain to an aircraft museum.
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Yes i agree he made the right choice, Full of fuel and not making the runway dosent bear thinking about, You could tell he was giving it plenty of thought, He wasnt listening to Air traffic control, They wasnt there, He was,
Photograph in the mail today showing all the services watching that poor bloke in the lake, Yet last week a guy strips off and go's in to save his dog, Next time you get your Rates bill have a look what your paying, For what ?
Photograph in the mail today showing all the services watching that poor bloke in the lake, Yet last week a guy strips off and go's in to save his dog, Next time you get your Rates bill have a look what your paying, For what ?
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Obviously the wings are bolted somehow or another to the fuselage. They would have to be removed for transportation to the 'bodyshop' so maybe it was best to just cut the buggers off and let them sink in the river. Who knows, just guessing really. Next time you get on an Airbus 320, if the seat feels a bit damp........
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Once when flying American Airlines I was seated at the emergency exit directly over the wing, pre takeoff the trolley dolly approaches me, I think good alcohol, no, she breaks in to a speech, “Sir you are occupying a seat adjacent to an emergence exit, in the event of an emergency are you prepared and in a fit state of health blah, blah, blah, to operate the emergence exit door”, I say yes, “Raise your right hand, repeat after me, I pledge etc, etc”, I thought I was being sworn in as president of something.
Alternative answers to “yes” could have been, “no I’m in the mood for being incinerated today”, or more fecking likely, “agree to open the exit, I’m fecking first out doll”, but being America thought a sensible reply more appropriate, they just don’t have the same sense of humour do they......
Alternative answers to “yes” could have been, “no I’m in the mood for being incinerated today”, or more fecking likely, “agree to open the exit, I’m fecking first out doll”, but being America thought a sensible reply more appropriate, they just don’t have the same sense of humour do they......
Adam Mint-
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Just read the report on the lake drowning Mcqueen was on about, absolutely ridiculous. Some years back I was down at the local pond, there was a kid (a girl) of about twelve years old with a toddler in a pushchair, the toddler got out of the pushchair and fell straight in to the pond, I expected the girl to do something but she just stood and looked, there was no one else in the immediate vicinity, I immediately stopped what I was doing, ran twenty yards or so to the scene of the incident and jumped straight in, as it turned out the water was only about three foot deep but I did not know that, I grabbed the toddler and climbed out of the pond. The toddler was crying but ok, just as well as I had no idea as to resuscitation methods being only twelve or so myself at the time, event over I collected my toy yacht and went off home somewhat wet and cold to get changed, day at pond ruined.
Thank f#ck I had no training or toddler would probably have drowned...
Thank f#ck I had no training or toddler would probably have drowned...
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HEY REG,, it think you need a hod carrier to carry that fecking big chip of yours round with you. fat pension my arseMcqueen wrote:Mmm, Sure the guy did well, But thats what there paid good money for, 99% of the time the job is a doddle, The planes fly themselves almost, So he did the right thing, He worked out it wouldnt make a runway, The plane was full of fuel, He didnt want to die, So i dont think he is was a hero, He did what he was trained for, Makes me laugh when people get a pat on the back for doing their jobs, Ooo the fireman went in a blazing building
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Probably was but blown it on 1 euro pints
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whats with you two ,attack the retired firemen week is it? bollocks.Topdog wrote:Probably was but blown it on 1 euro pints
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Alright, your burning up, calm down.cunningham wrote:whats with you two ,attack the retired firemen week is it? bollocks.Topdog wrote:Probably was but blown it on 1 euro pints