Pebble Beach Village

cunningham wrote:

Topdog wrote:Walls have ears, I found one in my ice cream.

what flavour was it kev cauliflour?

No P ear

Oh D ear!

The Lone Ranger wrote:Oh D ear!

listen Ear eye wax not talking to you.

Topdog wrote:

The Lone Ranger wrote:Oh D ear!

listen Ear eye wax not talking to you.

what did i tell you?

EH

Aha, welcome in truth.man, fun we have here, and sometimes even some serious bits. First of all have you seen El Baranco? If you dont know where it is its easily missed. It is behind the commercial centre by the dip in the road. Terrace bar is on the end and if you turn left there its on your left. Rusty railings give it away, worse inside I believe. The rest of Amarilla Golf is fine but very few properties being sold on the Island in general as its only the Ruskies who have any dosh and I should imagine they would prefer the more central areas.

Yes I have seen el barranco last time I was over. As you say easily missed but why does this guy go on about it so much. Checked out the Linkdin and it seems he will do anything to hide his identity. Anyone can register under any name. What I know so far is this guy lives in the UK Manchester or thereabouts. Done some Google on Joel David and he is an extra on Corrie St. There is some connection there me thinks!

Joel David also lives on Amarilla Golf according to this [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I vaguely remember with my interest in music I received a Pm from Jack on the old forum, telling me I would be missing a treat if I didnt see this guy at the Placeres restaurant in Los Abrigos. I didn´t go, but did listen to this vid on Youtube and though he was rubbish, so never bothered checking to see when / if he was playing again. :Not me Guv:

Thanks for that info. Done some checking and Jack Oakley says it was a property of Joel Davids which was damaged during the construction of el barranco. My sis has checked on the owners reg. there is no Joel David registered as an owner in Amarilla. I have however copied and pasted a letter to the Tenerife News sent in by a Joseph Murphy.
There seems to be a curious twist here somewhere. You are right by the way RUBBISH. I will do some more Googleing and see what I can find. But as I said Jack Oakley does have a keen interest in Joel David

Joseph Murphy,Aries, Amarilla Golf.Wednesday, 08 August 2007 12:44
Sir;
A number of years ago a building embargo was imposed on the Amarilla Golf by the Tenerife
Cabildo because they claimed that the infrastructure was substandard and illegal. The
original developers declared themelves bankrupt, leaving the properties that had been
completed there with deficient water and electricity supply, but most importantly, an inferior and
inadequate sewage system. The result of the embargo was that property and land prices were
severely depressed and a few opportunist individuals acquired parcels of land for little and in
some cases no money. One of those plots of land was the barranco. There are very few fertile
and green areas in the coastal districts of southern Tenerife but the barranco was one; this
deep gorge was filled with trees, cacti, fauna, and wildlife and it was so because it is nature's
way of expelling the deluge of flood water resulting from tropical rainstorms. Rainstorms have
battered the island for millions of years forming numerous and vitaly important barrancos and
now the planet's climate is drastically changing at an alarming rate with even heavier and more
frequent storms being predicted, the Amarilla barranco should have been sacred and
untouchable. Numerous discussions took place with the Cabildo and an effort to resolve the
inadequate infrastructure situation on the Amarilla, but the Cabildo stated quite clearly,"and
quite rightly so", that the only way the building embargo would be lifted was if a totally new legal
and adequate infrastructure large enough to sustain any proposed new development was in
place.
The Amarilla is a beautiful and spectacular part of Tenerife with hectares upon hectares of
undeveloped legitimate building land. In 2003 an agreement was ratified that the Cabildo would
hand over the control of the Amarilla to the Town Hall of San Miguel on the condition that they
would oversee a complete new infrastructure made up of new roads, pavements, street lighting,
water and electricity supplies and a new sewage system. The cost of this would have been
shared by the present residents of the Amarilla along with numerous land owners who were
eager to build new homes.
Negotiations with the Mayor of San Miguel to verify a total cost of the new infrastructure were
tedious and time consuming, so several land owners eager to commence the building of new
properties offered the San Miguel mayor and his town council a substantial sum "estimated at
nine and a half million euros" to complete the required infrastructure in exchange for planning
permission and building licences for their new developments. The initial agreement was, that
the new legal infrastructure should be in place before any new development was built so that
any new property complex could adjoin and utilise the new facilities, so it was a complete shock
to each and every present resident there "especialy myself a property owner on the Aries
complex", when in June of 2005 massive earth moving and rock breaking machinery ripped the
heart out of the green, fertile, and sacred barranco.
I read many letters in your newspaper from dismayed Amarilla residents asking how in the
name of sanity did Taurus developments obtain the permission not only to build at all, but to
desecrate the barranco before the new Cabildo enforced infrastructure had even been started
let alone finished. The method that Taurus used to destroy the barranco was little less than
criminal. For five long months they transformed a beauty spot"and an essential part of natures
defence against storm water", into an urban quarry.
The vibrations set up whilst hacking away at the western wall of the barranco caused
incalculable damage to the Aries properties which were less than twelve metres away from the
rock breakers. My home was bombarded by seismic vibrations causing visible cracks in both my
inner and outer walls, my next door neighbour's home sufferred the same fate. Intrinsic water
pipes servicing domestic supplies to numerous neighbours running within the framework of my
apartment block were crushed, enforcing my neighbours to go to the massive expense of
re-piping essential water supplies via a new external routing. I personally called the police "with
hindsight I should have called the Guardia Civil", to witness the horrendous vibrations that were
affecting my home. The police came, took photographs of the damage, called a temporary halt
to the rock breaker operating 12 metres from the foundations of my home and stated they would
make a report to the mayor. Two days later in an act of despicable arrogance not one but two
rock breakers were hacking their way to a twenty metre deep basement directly opposite my
property.
I will not repeat the accurate opinions that have already been printed in your newspaper
describing the debacle called the El Barranco Resort. A spokesperson for Taurus developments
stated that once all the plants were adorning the building it would look better. My opinion is that
if they were to transplant the hanging gardens of Babylon on to that monstrous structure it
would still look like Cell Block H.
Taurus developments are now advertising that El Barranco will be ready for occupation in
September this year, yet the new infrastructure is far from complete.
The new Amarilla sewage system will not be operational until the end of 2008 so if they do
occupy it, where is all the c%2A%2A%2Ap from ninety-seven new dwellings going to go? Will
they be issued with free 'jerry pots and commodes' to empty down into what is left of the
barranco and into the sea at Sun Bay, or will they get permission to branch into our officially
declared inadequate system? The very same inadequate system that the Cabildo declared
illegal and forced an embargo on any new building because of it. El Barranco will have to have
a habitation certificate from the mayor in order to occupy it. How in the name of sanitary
madness will they get it before the new sewage system is completed next year?
If I were a betting man I would lay odds of ten to one that they will, and that I could predict
excactly how, but I'm not, so... any guesses?

truth.man wrote:Thanks for that info. Done some checking and Jack Oakley says it was a property of Joel Davids which was damaged during the construction of el barranco. My sis has checked on the owners reg. there is no Joel David registered as an owner in Amarilla. I have however copied and pasted a letter to the Tenerife News sent in by a Joseph Murphy.
There seems to be a curious twist here somewhere. You are right by the way RUBBISH. I will do some more Googleing and see what I can find. But as I said Jack Oakley does have a keen interest in Joel David

Joseph Murphy,Aries, Amarilla Golf.Wednesday, 08 August 2007 12:44
Sir;
A number of years ago a building embargo was imposed on the Amarilla Golf by the Tenerife
Cabildo because they claimed that the infrastructure was substandard and illegal. The
original developers declared themelves bankrupt, leaving the properties that had been
completed there with deficient water and electricity supply, but most importantly, an inferior and
inadequate sewage system. The result of the embargo was that property and land prices were
severely depressed and a few opportunist individuals acquired parcels of land for little and in
some cases no money. One of those plots of land was the barranco. There are very few fertile
and green areas in the coastal districts of southern Tenerife but the barranco was one; this
deep gorge was filled with trees, cacti, fauna, and wildlife and it was so because it is nature's
way of expelling the deluge of flood water resulting from tropical rainstorms. Rainstorms have
battered the island for millions of years forming numerous and vitaly important barrancos and
now the planet's climate is drastically changing at an alarming rate with even heavier and more
frequent storms being predicted, the Amarilla barranco should have been sacred and
untouchable. Numerous discussions took place with the Cabildo and an effort to resolve the
inadequate infrastructure situation on the Amarilla, but the Cabildo stated quite clearly,"and
quite rightly so", that the only way the building embargo would be lifted was if a totally new legal
and adequate infrastructure large enough to sustain any proposed new development was in
place.
The Amarilla is a beautiful and spectacular part of Tenerife with hectares upon hectares of
undeveloped legitimate building land. In 2003 an agreement was ratified that the Cabildo would
hand over the control of the Amarilla to the Town Hall of San Miguel on the condition that they
would oversee a complete new infrastructure made up of new roads, pavements, street lighting,
water and electricity supplies and a new sewage system. The cost of this would have been
shared by the present residents of the Amarilla along with numerous land owners who were
eager to build new homes.
Negotiations with the Mayor of San Miguel to verify a total cost of the new infrastructure were
tedious and time consuming, so several land owners eager to commence the building of new
properties offered the San Miguel mayor and his town council a substantial sum "estimated at
nine and a half million euros" to complete the required infrastructure in exchange for planning
permission and building licences for their new developments. The initial agreement was, that
the new legal infrastructure should be in place before any new development was built so that
any new property complex could adjoin and utilise the new facilities, so it was a complete shock
to each and every present resident there "especialy myself a property owner on the Aries
complex", when in June of 2005 massive earth moving and rock breaking machinery ripped the
heart out of the green, fertile, and sacred barranco.
I read many letters in your newspaper from dismayed Amarilla residents asking how in the
name of sanity did Taurus developments obtain the permission not only to build at all, but to
desecrate the barranco before the new Cabildo enforced infrastructure had even been started
let alone finished. The method that Taurus used to destroy the barranco was little less than
criminal. For five long months they transformed a beauty spot"and an essential part of natures
defence against storm water", into an urban quarry.
The vibrations set up whilst hacking away at the western wall of the barranco caused
incalculable damage to the Aries properties which were less than twelve metres away from the
rock breakers. My home was bombarded by seismic vibrations causing visible cracks in both my
inner and outer walls, my next door neighbour's home sufferred the same fate. Intrinsic water
pipes servicing domestic supplies to numerous neighbours running within the framework of my
apartment block were crushed, enforcing my neighbours to go to the massive expense of
re-piping essential water supplies via a new external routing. I personally called the police "with
hindsight I should have called the Guardia Civil", to witness the horrendous vibrations that were
affecting my home. The police came, took photographs of the damage, called a temporary halt
to the rock breaker operating 12 metres from the foundations of my home and stated they would
make a report to the mayor. Two days later in an act of despicable arrogance not one but two
rock breakers were hacking their way to a twenty metre deep basement directly opposite my
property.
I will not repeat the accurate opinions that have already been printed in your newspaper
describing the debacle called the El Barranco Resort. A spokesperson for Taurus developments
stated that once all the plants were adorning the building it would look better. My opinion is that
if they were to transplant the hanging gardens of Babylon on to that monstrous structure it
would still look like Cell Block H.
Taurus developments are now advertising that El Barranco will be ready for occupation in
September this year, yet the new infrastructure is far from complete.
The new Amarilla sewage system will not be operational until the end of 2008 so if they do
occupy it, where is all the c%2A%2A%2Ap from ninety-seven new dwellings going to go? Will
they be issued with free 'jerry pots and commodes' to empty down into what is left of the
barranco and into the sea at Sun Bay, or will they get permission to branch into our officially
declared inadequate system? The very same inadequate system that the Cabildo declared
illegal and forced an embargo on any new building because of it. El Barranco will have to have
a habitation certificate from the mayor in order to occupy it. How in the name of sanitary
madness will they get it before the new sewage system is completed next year?
If I were a betting man I would lay odds of ten to one that they will, and that I could predict
excactly how, but I'm not, so... any guesses?

good work tm keep it up.

Blimey the Avatar is working.

So I assume the next step you will be taking will be to contact the Tenerife News and asking if you can see their archives, to see these letters >>>>I read many letters in your newspaper from dismayed Amarilla residents <<< and see if you can trace them to get a first hand feel of what is going on.

More interesting info, cheers.

Can't send the info till tomorrow but could I ask a favour? Any of you care to post a question on TF?
Ask about Joel David's HIT record 'Old Bones' Jack Oakley mentions this record quite a few times. Please ask in a round about way if Joel David wrote it. All will be revealed in the morning. Regards TM

Blimey, The plot thickens

Its like a Hercule Poirot novel!

I wish I could send the links now

I've just looked at Joel David's Myspace and see he only has one friend but it is NEIL DIAMOND !!! Still we have Steve McQueen so touché.

Gypsy wrote:I've just looked at Joel David's Myspace and see he only has one friend but it is NEIL DIAMOND !!! Still we have Steve McQueen so touché.

...and the Lone feckin' Ranger with his pal Tonto!

Oops sorry,

and Mr Victor Meldrew Esq.

Jimandsi wrote:
and Mr Victor Meldrew Esq.

..I don't believe it!...

and Fonzies mate.

No need to post on TF they will all read it on here

Most of us are banned dont you know.

I knew that