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not forgetting our very own Vera Im not banned but not that interested to be honest

Mcqueen wrote: Blimey, The plot thickens

Hi Guys As I said, I would do some digging and look what I have found. The first link is from a website called Accrington Web which is much like other forums. In this link you will notice a couple of postings from none other than Jack Oakley. He also talks of Joe Murphy who he says now performs solo as Joel David. Connection! Also he can’t resist placing a link. Now isn’t that a co-incidence. If my links don’t work copy and paste them in your browser.
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You have just got to wonder how on earth Jack Oakley would know that around 40 years ago Murphy had a guitar stolen – including every detail about it plus its current value. Is Jack Oakley a medium? After reading this he won’t be a happy medium!
The next link is from a Coronation Street website. Read the paragraph at the bottom.
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So I Googled Joel David, Darwen and behold!
This next link is from a restaurant in Darwen where Joel David plays every Wednesday
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If you care to click the Facebook link of Mangiamos under their ‘wall’ photos you will see a guy playing a keyboard and although he is wearing glasses it’s the same guy in Gypsy’s video. That vid was a big help. You need to search a bit. Look under wall photos then scroll to the bottom and click to 'show more' left hand side about 1/3 the way down.
I said before that Jack Oakley had a keen interest in Joel David and describes him as if he were in love with him. Well I am convinced who Jack Oakley is. How about you?
Murphy obviously has a hatred for el barranco and the people that built it. It’s a personal vendetta. It appears it took away his views and claims it has damaged his property and he seems hell bent on trying to get even. The development was apparently completed years ago but he still goes on or is this now just a springboard?.
It’s one thing to hide behind a pseudonym if you are doing some dirty digging but it’s another to use it to freely promote a has-been keyboard player/singer. What are your thoughts? TM

Just run that by me again TM No seriously your right on the money, Not very good at hiding his tracks is he, Well done Shirlock,

I always thought that he must have lost money in El Barranco?? Is it correct that he is just a local owner who has a gripe with the construction company/developers?

So you are saying Jack Oakley and Joel David/Murphy are one and the same person? As the Red Queen I should know this but who is alice in wonderland is she part of this?

And siniclesid I guess

Gypsy wrote:So you are saying Jack Oakley and Joel David/Murphy are one and the same person? As the Red Queen I should know this but who is alice in wonderland is she part of this?

truth.man wrote:And siniclesid I guess

Gypsy wrote:So you are saying Jack Oakley and Joel David/Murphy are one and the same person? As the Red Queen I should know this but who is alice in wonderland is she part of this?

alice, who the feck is alice.

Another thing which came to my attention. Jack Oakley is so keen to promote Joel David he feels the need to tell all not only to give the dates when he is playing but even when he visits the island. (as if anyone cares but him) Jack O is on the forum quite a lot but never on the dates when JD is in Tenerife!!!
Take a look at his posting
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The poster. Have you read it? He must have had them queuing up to the motorway!
And yes Alice likes to throw in her co - promotion.

truth.man wrote:Another thing which came to my attention. Jack Oakley is so keen to promote Joel David he feels the need to tell all not only to give the dates when he is playing but even when he visits the island. (as if anyone cares but him) Jack O is on the forum quite a lot but never on the dates when JD is in Tenerife!!!
Take a look at his posting
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The poster. Have you read it? He must have had them queuing up to the motorway!
And yes Alice likes to throw in her co - promotion.

question too difficult? who the feck is alice?

Take a look at the link and below Jack O's post is a reply by Alice in Wonderland. She too goes in to raptures about JD. Take a look at her other postings her and Jack appear to bounce off each other. (not physically you understand)

truth.man wrote:Take a look at the link and below Jack O's post is a reply by Alice in Wonderland. She too goes in to raptures about JD. Take a look at her other postings her and Jack appear to bounce off each other. (not physically you understand)

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I'm lost!!

CaribeCelt wrote:
I'm lost!!

i once was lost,but now i'm found. amazing innit.

Let me try to explain. I have been going through all Jack O's posts and it looks like others have too. I don't think siniclesid is on the new forum but if you find him on the old I think he starts by posting something like Does anyone know if Joel David is performing etc etc etc and it is answered by Jack O who describes JD as if he were the icing on the cake.
Then sid comes back with much the same vomit invoking guff about JD. It's a though one is priming another. This also applies in much the same way to Alice in Wonderland. Methinks perhaps Murphy, who does appear to live in his make believe world, is asking questions in one name then answering in another.
Hope that helps TM

So now you have all of this information, what will you do with it? Are you going to discredit Jack/Joel/Sid etc or are you just content to let your sister know that it is someone who lives in Amarilla with a grudge against a builder.

Have you researched the builder? Is he kosher or is he a crook as implied?

Go on, follow a different thread, because I think that now you have found out the above you will probably leave us and we won´t hear from you again.

truth.man wrote:Let me try to explain. I have been going through all Jack O's posts and it looks like others have too. I don't think siniclesid is on the new forum but if you find him on the old I think he starts by posting something like Does anyone know if Joel David is performing etc etc etc and it is answered by Jack O who describes JD as if he were the icing on the cake.
Then sid comes back with much the same vomit invoking guff about JD. It's a though one is priming another. This also applies in much the same way to Alice in Wonderland. Methinks perhaps Murphy, who does appear to live in his make believe world, is asking questions in one name then answering in another.
Hope that helps TM

hi tm, i have been having a bo peep, and yep you are correct.

Gypsy wrote:So now you have all of this information, what will you do with it? Are you going to discredit Jack/Joel/Sid etc or are you just content to let your sister know that it is someone who lives in Amarilla with a grudge against a builder.

Have you researched the builder? Is he kosher or is he a crook as implied?

Go on, follow a different thread, because I think that now you have found out the above you will probably leave us and we won´t hear from you again.

I was really trying to establish the identity of Jack O and find out the true reasons for his rants. I was initially under the impression someone was deliberately bad mouthing PBV for some particular gain or something. My sis trying to sell - I was concerned to say the least.
As far as the developers are concerned I really think Jack has dug a little too deep for his own good. Some of his remarks about who he thinks are involved and other associates are very damming. I am surprised the TF has allowed this because it could be construed as defamation. As such he hides his face while talking which smacks of a coward. Being a coward I think he may be a little worried now. If there was any real substance to his claims this would certainly be a good subject for a tv program but I understand its been going on 7 years plus. There are lots of entrepreneurs who exploit loopholes and that applies everywhere, but Jack O certainly has a bee in his bonnet about this one. I am still however going to keep my eye on him though he may lie low for some time then re-emerge in some new guise.
I have been pretty active on this one but I shall certainly stick around. You guys are great. I am visiting the island next month. May be nice to put a face to a name. Cheers TM

looks like you pulled mum.

cunningham wrote:looks like you pulled mum.

Pfft, put your investigative journalists head on son, you will see that TM is younger than you so where does that leave me. I'm not a cougar you know - anyway I have Jimbo until Cru gets back. :sulk2:

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cunningham wrote:looks like you pulled mum.

Pfft, put your investigative journalists head on son, you will see that TM is younger than you so where does that leave me. I'm not a cougar you know - anyway I have Jimbo until Cru gets back.

whats a cougar mum? jimbo is renowned for being a dirty old man.

Hi TM are you playing down in Placeres when you are over.

truth.man wrote:Let me try to explain. I have been going through all Jack O's posts and it looks like others have too. I don't think siniclesid is on the new forum but if you find him on the old I think he starts by posting something like Does anyone know if Joel David is performing etc etc etc and it is answered by Jack O who describes JD as if he were the icing on the cake.
Then sid comes back with much the same vomit invoking guff about JD. It's a though one is priming another. This also applies in much the same way to Alice in Wonderland. Methinks perhaps Murphy, who does appear to live in his make believe world, is asking questions in one name then answering in another.
Hope that helps TM

Are you trying to say SinicleSid, Alice in Wonderland and Jack Oakley are the one person and are going through a self promoting ritual every so often to bring attention to Joel David's caberet act and their/his/her own personal vendetta against the builders of El Barranco??

innit wrote:
Hi TM are you playing down in Placeres when you are over.

Not a bad idea but I can't even play the spoons.